Crass in Context 3 - seventies radical's view of punk
This article is taken from a magazine called Undercurrents, Number 25, Dec 1977/ January 1978. I have scanned in pages from previous issue below.
Undercurrents ran from 1974 to 1981. It developed and continued on from the more down to earth and practical political ( but witha few ley lines thrown in) aspects of the 66 to 74 counter culture underground. The underground mag OZ , for example, ran stories on what was then called alternative technology and what are now Green issues. If I had not thrown out/ lost the old issues of OZ I had, would scan in to illustrate.
If what became UK punk can be traced back to and was a continuation of the more over the top/ situationist/ surrealist/ dadaist/ nihilist aspects of that counterculture, then Undercurrents represents an alternative trajectory, one which led to today's Greens and to the eighties/ nineties/ ongoing radical protest movements and campaigns.
Windmills and psychedelic dreams
Part of the post-sixties counterculture involved setting up communes and organic farms and building windmills - way back in 1972 a big house near here was taken over by / as a commune - Laurieston Hall. Still going, but now as a housing co-op. See http://www.diggersanddreamers.org.uk/record_detail.php?eight=lauriest for details.
I assume Dial House came out of that era and that down to earth seventies version of sixties radicalism.
In 1977 I remember going to a party in a 'hippy' house in Galloway
and looking through their record collection. It was huge, but kind of tailed off
after about 1972- the most recenty record being Ziggy Stardust by Bowie. It was as if change and growth had stopped then. In 1985 I remember playing some Sex Pistiols to Charley Barley - a Stonehenge/Glastonbury/ traveller and ex- London squatter.
He was impressed "Wow , what is this amazing shit!" was his comment.
"Uh, punk" I replied. His ex-partner Willow ( mentioned in C.J. Stone's "Last of the Hippies " book : Faber and Faber: 1999 - CJ was a Guardian columnist for a while) told me when she first saw some punks at Stonehenge she though they were aliens...
Credit to Penny Rimbaud and Crass - he/ they engaged with punk. But did he/ they do so from a similar point of view and understanding of what punk was as expressed by Dave Elliot here/ in Undercurrents? Which shopuld be readable if you click on text.
Quote :
It [punk] has sprung up from local groups in deprived urban areas, from kids whose experience is one of unemployment, street violence, depression and despair. The movement is very self-consciously working -class...
Yeah, sure - Malcolm Mclaren and Vivienne Westwood and Jamie Reid and Bernie Rhodes were all deprived working class kids. Of course they fucking weren't (do they owe us an explanation?- course they fucking do!).
As Jon Savage suggested and as Tom Vague has proved (despite Stewart Home), punk was a a straightforward continuation of the "be realistic: demand the impossible" surrealist/ dadaist/ nihilist/ situationist revolutionary tradition and culture.
I could be right, I could be wrong. I will keep posting up bits and pieces like the above - read 'em, look at 'em and work it out for yourself.
Undercurrents ran from 1974 to 1981. It developed and continued on from the more down to earth and practical political ( but witha few ley lines thrown in) aspects of the 66 to 74 counter culture underground. The underground mag OZ , for example, ran stories on what was then called alternative technology and what are now Green issues. If I had not thrown out/ lost the old issues of OZ I had, would scan in to illustrate.
If what became UK punk can be traced back to and was a continuation of the more over the top/ situationist/ surrealist/ dadaist/ nihilist aspects of that counterculture, then Undercurrents represents an alternative trajectory, one which led to today's Greens and to the eighties/ nineties/ ongoing radical protest movements and campaigns.
Windmills and psychedelic dreams
Part of the post-sixties counterculture involved setting up communes and organic farms and building windmills - way back in 1972 a big house near here was taken over by / as a commune - Laurieston Hall. Still going, but now as a housing co-op. See http://www.diggersanddreamers.org.uk/record_detail.php?eight=lauriest for details.
I assume Dial House came out of that era and that down to earth seventies version of sixties radicalism.
In 1977 I remember going to a party in a 'hippy' house in Galloway
and looking through their record collection. It was huge, but kind of tailed off
after about 1972- the most recenty record being Ziggy Stardust by Bowie. It was as if change and growth had stopped then. In 1985 I remember playing some Sex Pistiols to Charley Barley - a Stonehenge/Glastonbury/ traveller and ex- London squatter.
He was impressed "Wow , what is this amazing shit!" was his comment.
"Uh, punk" I replied. His ex-partner Willow ( mentioned in C.J. Stone's "Last of the Hippies " book : Faber and Faber: 1999 - CJ was a Guardian columnist for a while) told me when she first saw some punks at Stonehenge she though they were aliens...
Credit to Penny Rimbaud and Crass - he/ they engaged with punk. But did he/ they do so from a similar point of view and understanding of what punk was as expressed by Dave Elliot here/ in Undercurrents? Which shopuld be readable if you click on text.
Quote :
It [punk] has sprung up from local groups in deprived urban areas, from kids whose experience is one of unemployment, street violence, depression and despair. The movement is very self-consciously working -class...
Yeah, sure - Malcolm Mclaren and Vivienne Westwood and Jamie Reid and Bernie Rhodes were all deprived working class kids. Of course they fucking weren't (do they owe us an explanation?- course they fucking do!).
As Jon Savage suggested and as Tom Vague has proved (despite Stewart Home), punk was a a straightforward continuation of the "be realistic: demand the impossible" surrealist/ dadaist/ nihilist/ situationist revolutionary tradition and culture.
I could be right, I could be wrong. I will keep posting up bits and pieces like the above - read 'em, look at 'em and work it out for yourself.
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